Pioneer DVR-108D - Crowning a new Champion
by Kristopher Kubicki on August 31, 2004 12:02 AM EST- Posted in
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Burn Tests CDR Media
We use the following configuration to test our burners:Albatron 865PE Pro II
Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz 800FSB
2 x 512 DDR OCZ PC3200 EL
Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM 8MB PATA
Windows XP SP1
We are going to run this benchmark in the same manner in which we ran our Sony DRU-540A benchmarks. We first burn the media with the DVR-108D and then use Plextools v2.12 to test C1/C2/CU averages in a Plextor PX-712A. Good burns have low C1/C2 averages and are considered to be the most readable. We used Ahead Nero's CD-DVD Speed 3.12 for burn and read tests. We will also provide images of the PX-712A for reference (which we have retested with better firmware and media). The images below are Pioneer DVR-108D images and in some cases, hover over the image to see the PX-712A images.
Fujifilm CDR
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Neither drive has any particular trouble writing to this disc. Below, we took the disc that we just created and read it back in PlexTools and CDSpeed.
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Although there are significant C1 errors, there are no C2 or unreadable sectors, and this burn is considered just perfect.
Imation CDR
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Hold your mouse over for the PX-712A image.
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Hold your mouse over for the PX-712A image.
Like Fujifilm, Imation media is one of the higher quality brands of media, which performed just as well - at least on the burn.
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Unfortunately, this burn did not go as well as some of the others. The disc is readable, but we probably will run into trouble if the quality gets much worse. On the Plextor, the burn failed a little after the 70min marker.
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DarthRanger - Saturday, September 4, 2004 - link
Hi Kristopher -Saw your post to my question; so you're saying Plextor has a d/l DVD RW? I checked Plextor-America's site and didn't see a D/L model there. Can you point me to a link?
Thanks,
Darth Ranger
Bozo Galora - Saturday, September 4, 2004 - link
Well well, quite a hodge podge of opinions and corrections.First of all the "retail" version with "honeycombed" casing to lower noise is not out yet. Its PART number is DVR-A08XL.
DVR-108 is the name of the drive and DVR-108D is the bare drive OEM bulk PART number.
I got that info from the cdrinfo article touted above, which does seem to be a lot more informative, and paints a lot less rosy picture of the drive.
http://cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?...
After reading AT review, I had actually written a check to edazz.com for 5 of them ($89 shipped). Thanks to comments here, I ripped up the check and am now on hold again.
As far as the Plextor being $30 more expensive, pricegrabber.com has it for ~$122 at several vendors with 2 dif $30 rebate coupons noted, good until Oct.
So then I went to cdrlabs.com and saw one of the the new Liteon 16X will have a USB port version...
"Also available in an external version around October, the SOHW-1633SX offers an integrated USB 2.0 port for easy, flexible connectivity, and is ideal for users ‘on the go’."
"Fewer mistakes than usual" comment by belzer - heh heh. Quite an indictment.
I really need some DVD burners badly, but I guess I have to wait this stuff out.
And will have to take future AT optical reviews with a grain of salt - so to speak.
kcma - Friday, September 3, 2004 - link
I never read Anandtech's optical storage reviews, why? Because any burner reviews without tests on protected media is not worth my time reading. I browsed through the article quickly and once again, no tests are done on ripping and burning protected titles. If I was wrong because I browsed too quickly, I apologize. I would love to see this changed though, Maybe future articles can include these tests?bendixG15 - Thursday, September 2, 2004 - link
Okay;;Is there a diference between the modelDVR-108 asnd the DVR-108D ????
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, September 2, 2004 - link
Questar: The ridata media is pretty terrible. I havent seen another burner that burns it well either.Then again, look at some of our other dual layer tests that cant even burn the good MKM stuff.
Kristopher
mud - Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - link
"but since dual layer media still costs several dollars a disc"Can someone tell me where I can find dual layer media at that price!?
Questar - Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - link
A drive that FAILED half of the +R9 tests is considered the best drive you have ever tested?!?WTF was an average drive then??
KristopherKubicki - Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - link
Belzer youre correct, ill have that changed.Kristopher
Belzer - Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - link
Congratulations, fewer mistakes in this reveiw than usual. Here is a major one though:"CMC MAG F01
This is an Imation disc rated at 8x write speeds."
If this was rated 8x, which I doubt, it must be a mistake in production. CMC MAG F01 is the MID for CMC Magnetics 4x certified discs. If you had really tried a CMC Magnetics 8x disc, MID CMC MAG E01, you would actually have been able to try the burner @16x speed as it allows overspeeding on this media.
KristopherKubicki - Wednesday, September 1, 2004 - link
DarthRanger: I am guessing you didnt read the review.Kristopher