Did you know we all start out as arseholes? It's the first structure to form in the womb.
As for BenQ, I do agree with the OP that you don't really associate their brand with the professional sector. They've always struck me as a gaming / consumer brand. But hey, if all they do is buy panels and repackage them (Yeh I know there's more to it than that) then there's nothing to stop them doing the same with pro panels.
Please show me where I said I don't like BenQ. I passed no judgement on their brand whatsoever. Just stated my opinion that I haven't seen them be a big player in professional photography and video editing displays up to this point. But it seems that most other people got what I meant.
I`m sitting at color corrected Benq GW2460 right now and I agree with Death666Angel. Granted, it`s not a professional monitor by a long shot, but I`ve seen their pro offerings as well and came away unimpressed. Benq is good for home use and that`s it.
The new Windows update still has HDR mode washed out when viewing the windows desktop on my HDR OLED. I wonder if thats a result of the HDMI limitations of the TV and if displayport solves the issue with monitors.
What HDR spec is your TV? We all generally assume that HDR support on a panel means HDR10, but panel manufacturers have been know to just kind of... make up their own HDR. Your panel might be in some sort of HDR limbo where it's better then RGB, but not really HDR10
I remember watchin a Linus Tech Tips video about that. He said that Win10 handles HDR weirdly, in that it caps general brightness at 100nits in order to not blind you by 1k nits whites and what not. It didn't seem terribly well thought through, considering desktop usage. For the moment I think you'd be better of with a separat consumption device / setting. And leaving your desktop/browsing use in non-HDR territory.
Forcing default white brightness for non HDR apps to something well below panel max seems eminently reasonable to me. IIRC ~80-100 nits is the recommended level for normal indoor lighting so 100 does seem like a reasonable default value. If they don't offer an override for people who want a brighter than normal display or who just need to crank the brightness to several hundred nits because they're outside in bright sunlight seems like someone didn't think things fully through.
One more hdr monitor that is not good enough to show hdr content as it should be... *sigh* Hopefully the next one actually can show full hdr content...
There's nothing much you can do about the headphone jack problem except buy products that have them. If enough people do, then the industry will get the idea and they'll be included again. If that doesn't work, it'll be because sales of USB based headphones are high enough and we'll all just have to go with the flow because they sold well enough to take over as the new way things are. Its sorta like how DVD drives and old stuff like floppy disks are no longer around.
So... if you can't actually do the required 1000nits, you instead do 350, add a shroud and call it a day? And the mighty Anandtech has nothing to say on the subject? Nice.
Why doesn't this monitor list include the information to tell users it isn't actually HDR color capable. The whole reason to use HDR means is should support REC 2100/2200!!!! If it did then the color coverage would look something like this REC2100 - 80% would translate into something like 150% REC 709, Adobe RGB 140%, DCI-P3 135%. The good (mid range and up) 4K TV's already have this. Why is it taking monitors so long to support? And why do tech sites gloss over this??? All it does is make the PC users 'think' they have HDR support when in reality they do NOT!
All of this HDR (wide gamut + high luminance + contrast) will stay at limbo land for at least 2-5 years more until we get to just 2 freaking standard and not everyone and their pets reinventing the wheel.
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Death666Angel - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
When I think "professional displays" I don't think BenQ. Interesting monitor, on paper.MaxdeWinter - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
So you've basically said nothing whatsoever there other than "I don't like BenQs regardless of what they produce": Why bother?Tunnah - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
I'd say the same to you, but then that'd make me an ass too. It's a comment section, he made a comment about what he thought.Amandtec - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
And again, I could also say the same to you but then this would like Inception except with ass holes instead of dreams.philehidiot - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
Did you know we all start out as arseholes? It's the first structure to form in the womb.As for BenQ, I do agree with the OP that you don't really associate their brand with the professional sector. They've always struck me as a gaming / consumer brand. But hey, if all they do is buy panels and repackage them (Yeh I know there's more to it than that) then there's nothing to stop them doing the same with pro panels.
Death666Angel - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
Please show me where I said I don't like BenQ. I passed no judgement on their brand whatsoever. Just stated my opinion that I haven't seen them be a big player in professional photography and video editing displays up to this point. But it seems that most other people got what I meant.sonny73n - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link
I'll just say it - I don't like BenQ monitors!!! So what? They're overpriced and their colors aren't up to par. I'd take Dell's over these any day.chrnochime - Wednesday, November 8, 2017 - link
Yes we "really" care that you don't like their screens. /sHurr Durr - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link
I`m sitting at color corrected Benq GW2460 right now and I agree with Death666Angel. Granted, it`s not a professional monitor by a long shot, but I`ve seen their pro offerings as well and came away unimpressed. Benq is good for home use and that`s it.Tams80 - Tuesday, November 7, 2017 - link
Well, someone can't read.austinsguitar - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
they do make the best high fps monitors in the world... there is no competition accept maybe asus. but yea color wise i see what your saying.mckirkus - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
The new Windows update still has HDR mode washed out when viewing the windows desktop on my HDR OLED. I wonder if thats a result of the HDMI limitations of the TV and if displayport solves the issue with monitors.Mr Perfect - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
What HDR spec is your TV? We all generally assume that HDR support on a panel means HDR10, but panel manufacturers have been know to just kind of... make up their own HDR. Your panel might be in some sort of HDR limbo where it's better then RGB, but not really HDR10mckirkus - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
It's an LG B6 OLED. It's the real deal with HDR10 and Dolby Vision support.Death666Angel - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
I remember watchin a Linus Tech Tips video about that. He said that Win10 handles HDR weirdly, in that it caps general brightness at 100nits in order to not blind you by 1k nits whites and what not. It didn't seem terribly well thought through, considering desktop usage. For the moment I think you'd be better of with a separat consumption device / setting. And leaving your desktop/browsing use in non-HDR territory.DanNeely - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
Forcing default white brightness for non HDR apps to something well below panel max seems eminently reasonable to me. IIRC ~80-100 nits is the recommended level for normal indoor lighting so 100 does seem like a reasonable default value. If they don't offer an override for people who want a brighter than normal display or who just need to crank the brightness to several hundred nits because they're outside in bright sunlight seems like someone didn't think things fully through.haukionkannel - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
One more hdr monitor that is not good enough to show hdr content as it should be...*sigh* Hopefully the next one actually can show full hdr content...
StrangerGuy - Saturday, November 4, 2017 - link
It should be called scam HDR with that astounding non FALD 1000:1 contrast ratio and when the LG C7 OLED is now dropping below the $2k mark.leo_sk - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link
Even monitors aimed at photographers got headphone jack. What has gotten into these mobile manufacturers?Hurr Durr - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link
Jobs is destroying the sector beyond the grave!PeachNCream - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
There's nothing much you can do about the headphone jack problem except buy products that have them. If enough people do, then the industry will get the idea and they'll be included again. If that doesn't work, it'll be because sales of USB based headphones are high enough and we'll all just have to go with the flow because they sold well enough to take over as the new way things are. Its sorta like how DVD drives and old stuff like floppy disks are no longer around.Lolimaster - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link
Really. what's the point of including HDR on a piss poor contrast panel like IPS, HDR should only be included on VA panels at minimum.timecop1818 - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link
> Unlike the bigger SW320, the SW271 uses a LED backlighting.What? SW320 uses W-LED, at least as far as I can tell. Which of the "LED" backlight does this use? white-led? gb? gb-r?
bug77 - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
So... if you can't actually do the required 1000nits, you instead do 350, add a shroud and call it a day? And the mighty Anandtech has nothing to say on the subject? Nice.Rufnek - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
Why doesn't this monitor list include the information to tell users it isn't actually HDR color capable. The whole reason to use HDR means is should support REC 2100/2200!!!!If it did then the color coverage would look something like this REC2100 - 80% would translate into something like 150% REC 709, Adobe RGB 140%, DCI-P3 135%.
The good (mid range and up) 4K TV's already have this. Why is it taking monitors so long to support? And why do tech sites gloss over this??? All it does is make the PC users 'think' they have HDR support when in reality they do NOT!
Lolimaster - Monday, November 6, 2017 - link
All of this HDR (wide gamut + high luminance + contrast) will stay at limbo land for at least 2-5 years more until we get to just 2 freaking standard and not everyone and their pets reinventing the wheel.