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  • XabanakFanatik - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    "ASRock has introduced what could be the world’s smallest system based on AMD Ryzen processor."

    This might actually mean something if it had a desirable Ryzen CPU.
  • drexnx - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    40c?

    I assume that has to be ambient, right?
  • nathanddrews - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    Depending on the price, this could be a very desirable system. My head immediately goes to some sort of HTPC or arcade emulation setup, but the Pi4 is probably going to fill that void better for the majority of cases. That said, anyone know why it's called 4X4? I first misread it as being 4x4x4 inches and thought that would be cool to have a tiny cube PC, but those dimensions are impossible with this hardware...
  • Hul8 - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    Length: 118.5 mm = 4.67 in
    Width: 110 mm = 4.33 in
    Height: 67.3 mm = 2.65 in

    So your first take was correct - Length x Width is in the 4 inch by 4 inch ballpark. (Although Asrock have taken some liberties with the rounding.)
  • Alexvrb - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    I mean in such a small form factor it's not bad, you're not buying one of these to run heavy workloads. With that being said there's no reason they shouldn't at least OFFER a higher-end model with a V1605B.

    As Death said below, if you are willing to go with something slightly larger, they already have the A300 which does socketed 65W Ryzens and thus has far greater possibilities (though I would personally couple the A300 with GE chips).
  • Death666Angel - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    Just as a reference for people: The AsRock DeskMini A300 can accommodate a 65W socketed Ryzen CPU and has a size of 155 x 155 x 80 mm³. The R1000 has more USB and LAN ports, fewer internal specs (M.2 / 2.5"). Considering the embedded/business nature of this thing, it looks pretty good. 2 LAN ports means some enthusiasts (who aren't die hard on Intel NICs) will find a use for this thing. Personally, I'd take the A300 for a better hardware package in slightly bigger package. I like AsRock for doing these kinds of things for the consumers.
  • twotwotwo - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    I'm curious what the smallest viable option for a Matisse chip will turn out be. The smallest X570 board I've heard of so far is mini-DTX, and since there're no Matisse APUs, looks like it has to fit a GPU unless you're using it more like a server.
  • amb9800 - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    There are several announced Mini-ITX X570 boards- those are the smallest so far.
  • Alexvrb - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    I don't know if they sell the mini-STX board separately, but if Asrock updates the BIOS for the board in the A300, that could run 65W Matisse. They may just want to wait and release a newer model in a year instead though... the point is that mini-STX is possible.

    Mini-ITX is far more available and sensible though, and if you don't want to spend the cash on X570 there are B450/X470 and future 5xx options.
  • Death666Angel - Sunday, July 7, 2019 - link

    The mini STX needs an APU though unless you go with a PCIe M.2 to GPU hack. :)
  • Lucky Stripes 99 - Monday, July 8, 2019 - link

    Hopefully when the B550 chip comes out, we'll see a thin mini-ITX motherboard hit the market. I'd love to have an AMD version of the Asus Prime H310T with a 3400G installed. The A320 chipset in the Deskmini is just a bit too limiting, as are the space constraints of mini-STX.
  • TrevorH - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link

    I think I'd rather have an Odriod H2.
  • oRAirwolf - Saturday, July 6, 2019 - link

    I have a couple of Odroid H2's. They are nice but they're not nearly as refined as this solution. I am sure that these SoC's offer much better performance as well. If a better case was offered for the H2, it would be a much more attractive solution.
  • PeachNCream - Saturday, July 6, 2019 - link

    Aw, its adorable! Probably rather underpowered, but still it makes me wanna tape bunny ears on it and hug it.
  • bill.rookard - Saturday, July 6, 2019 - link

    This could be a really great HTPC, but as with all hardware these days, there is no bad hardware (well, mostly), there is just bad pricing. If the price is right, this would compete well against the NUCs as they could slot between the Atom based ones and the Core based systems.

    Plus, one thing that drives me nuts with my NUC (Apollo Lake based) is no CEC support built in. Grrrr...
  • Desierz - Saturday, July 6, 2019 - link

    They need to get them as small as the smallest Intel NUC.
  • PixyMisa - Saturday, July 6, 2019 - link

    The smallest Intel models don't have room for a 2.5" drive though.
  • Soulkeeper - Sunday, July 7, 2019 - link

    Will this have ecc support ?
  • MASSAMKULABOX - Monday, July 8, 2019 - link

    i DONT KNOW if these are the INtel NUC killers I was hoping for.. Depends on price and gfx ability. But if they get iNtel to lower their prices its all good. That m.2 2260 is a real washout tho.. that needs to be replaced with m2 2280 real quick unless there are a whole load of 2260 ssd's floating around??
  • MASSAMKULABOX - Monday, July 8, 2019 - link

    be nice if they brought out one with an mx540 gfx insert too ..LOL
  • Samus - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link

    Super nice to see dual NICs!
  • Gary Byatt - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link

    Useful looking device, except they use Realtek hardware, so it can't run Linux.
    I can understand such a choice for a desktop or laptop, but not something that could easily by used as an IoT device where headless Linux is most appropriate.
    Odd that they exclude themselves from a large and growing market by choosing hardware that most desktop users would not care about.

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