Does Intel plan on taking advantage of the Adaptive Sync tech anytime soon? I know they use it for other things for power saving (self-refresh, etc.), but it sure seems like a golden opportunity.
In the same vein - given that we know (and have known for some time) that the G-Sync module is not required if you have eDP/DP1.2a, when can we expect a shift to tech-agnostic displays? Do we have to wait for DP1.3?
I know eDP/DP1.2a provides a similar feature set to G-Sync; but has nVidia actually said anything about adopting it instead of (in addition to?) their current custom hardware implementation?
I suppose I deserve what I get for commenting before reading the 2nd page of the article; but as long as they're requiring additional qualification work to approve a panel for GSync, there's still plenty of potential to cause trouble for cross GPU support if they wanted to.
VESA's Adaptive Sync is a part of eDP and DP 1.2a+. It's there, waiting to be used. G-Sync, FreeSync, and whatever Intel does are just the names for how they utilize it.
The only reason NVIDIA pursued a custom module was because no desktop monitors - at the time - included A-Sync. Screens connected via eDP can. As we move forward with newer and newer displays, we're likely to see more and more of them be A-Sync-capable, which means being able to support any variable refresh technology, whatever the marketing label is. Whether or not those displays end up as G-Sync, FreeSync, or some sort of hybrid is up to the manufacturers, I suppose. Just like with G-Sync and FreeSync displays, optimizing the display will still be important.
Ideal situation: connect monitor to computer, GPU drivers load a default profile based upon EDID for frequency range and resolution support, advanced users can tweak (under/overclock/etc.), maybe share firmware, etc. to crowd-source calibration settings. Shipping a monitor back to a manufacturer for an update is ridiculous...
> The only reason NVIDIA pursued a custom module was because no desktop monitors - at the time - included A-Sync. This is not true. When AMD created FreeSync the DisplayPort 1.2a monitors did not exist either, but instead of creating a propierty solution, they got FreeSync incorperated into the open standard. Nvidia could have done the same thing, but they prefer using propierty standards to lock the customers in.
DP1.2a display availability lagged behind G-Sync Module display availability by more than a year. If NVIDIA pursued the VESA solution, G-Sync would have been delayed alongside FreeSync. The G-Sync module was absolutely required to get a jump on the market since DP1.2 did not include the Adaptive Sync option. You may not LIKE it, but that's the how it happened.
DP1.2a display availability also lagged behind FreeSync... AMD just waited had to wait for them to come available (in fact they pushed the standard forward) and Nvidia could have done the same.
ASUS does overall make fantastic computers, but I'd recommend going for the Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLK. Highly approved by many gaming enthusiasts. /Logan from http://www.consumerrunner.com/top-10-best-laptops/
I have a great idea. Let's build Optimus notebooks for five years, and then all the sudden build one without it! Isnt that a great frickin idea? I need to be CEO of Asus.
Never heard about it? Were you hiding under a rock during that fiasco? It was so bad that some review sites would mark a product down just for having Optimus enabled by default in the bios from the factory.
Optimus is terrible for everything except AAA gaming (big trouble with most online games, nightmare with linux, and so on), and does not make any sense for large caliber gaming rigs anyway. Basically you have to plug in otherwise battery won't last more than an hour.
There's a 1-2% framerate hit; and while that's a meaningless real world difference hysteria driven configuration has meant it's often not been installed in top of the line gaming laptops; and caused people to disable it in mid-range ones.
I think it has something to do with G-Sync, which is why I laid that out exactly on page 3 :)
"In order to implement G-SYNC, the NVIDIA GPU must be directly connected to the display panel over eDP - since variable refresh doesn't currently translate through iGPUs - which means that it instantly precludes implementation of NVIDIA’s Optimus technology"
Indeed, the only way to get around this is to do what MSI have done and have a manual switch and on reboot move the traces over and run in IGP mode (without G-sync of course).
Asus also only had the later G750 with optimus, before they actually avoided it generally in their 17 inch models. So really for asus the optimus models were a blip rather than a trend.
As a matter of fact, everyone has been building some non optimus notebooks all the time.
The Optimus technology requires the screen to be directly driven by the integrated GPU. Some custom technologies made by GPU manufacturers require the screen to be driven by the GPU himself. That's why the 3D laptops never sold, because Nvidia's 3D technology requires the screen to be driven by the nvidia GPU directly, so you can't have an Optimus-enabled 3D screen laptop (well, at least using nvidia 3D).
The same problem is true for G-Sync. So you can't technically have G-sync and optimus on the same laptop.
Exactly, the optimus tech even effects VR and you can't drive VR with igpu, many high end laptops are now coming without optimus due to customer demand.
Optimus tech is reviled in the hardcore gaming community and gaming forums who pay $2000 plus for gaming laptops, many top-end gaming laptops have no optimus due to Customer demand !!
OK, bit why would anyone buy this now, when Skylake is right around the corner? Wait another couple of months, and an equivalent model with a better CPU and DDR4 is all but guaranteed by the holiday shopping season. Or, at the very least, this particular model will be selling at deep discounts by then...
because, you buy it when you need it, not when there is something new 'in a couple of months'.
A week, sure, that's not a long wait, but 2 months to launch means you're going to be waiting another 6 months until the replacement for this type of gaming laptop to appear on the market.
According to various leaks, Skylake H is launching in October. Skylake T (low voltage 35W i7 6700) is also launching about then or even sooner.
Given that, why would anyone NOT expect all brands to refresh models with Skylake by Black Friday?? Any brand that fails to do that, is going to lose out huge this year.
So sure, retail availability of bixed CPUs is October, but I'll bet all the OEMs have had samples under NDA since spring, and are working to deliver updated models on the same day as the CPU launch.
Guys in work bemoanded my M3800 purchase back in December due to only having Haswell, and supposedly Broadwell was due out any day... But a machine was required immediately.
Broadwell shipped 8 months later, and in no numbers too! I'm not ever buying a 'U' Intel cpu, so those don't count.
Turns out my instinct (likely due to places like this), was right.
Around the corner?? Skylake H mobile will take atleast 6 months before launching in a new product like this, people buy when they need and don't wait half a year for updates.
With "Skylake around the corner", nobody seems to want to sell even the few Broadwell-H laptops that allegedly exist, atleast in Europe. I'm guessing we'll be stuck on Haswell another 9-16 months..
My guess is, nobody wanted to invest in Broadwell H inventory, when Skylake is soon to render it obsolete. OEMs are simply waiting for Skylake to refresh their models; they are skipping Broadwell pretty much just as Intel did.
I doubt you even read the article's first paragraph before commenting here, You are blabering about Engineers and architects and ignoring the name of the product itself: "Republic of Gamers", Hope you got a clue and its gaming not gayming. Hope i didn't hurt your gay feelings, homophobic people generally are just hiding their own insecurities and can be cured with proper help in coming out of the closet.
As an engineer (SW) who periodically deals with 3D graphics and modeling, I wouldn't bother with any 16:9 screen no matter the resolution. 16:10 is the minimal aspect ratio that is remotely acceptable for a workstation. 1080p is only suitable for movie watching, and is counter-productive for anything else.
(The sad and rarely advertised/appreciated aspect of any kind of engineering or architecting, us that 50% or more of the time is spent on writing or reviewing of documentation.)
I believe the author must have been referring to the Zenbook 303, as the Zenbook 305 is a cpu crippled piece of dung. But an otherwise nice piece of dung. 1080P (not some unusable in windows 3k or 4k BS), matte screen (which is the only way to go on a non-touch laptop), NON-TOUCH (which is also the only way to go imho), nice keyboard, nice case, nice weight, so-so connectivity. But the 303 doesn't gimp the CPU and that makes it a NICE ZENBOOK.
As for this overweight (big steaming pile) mini-desktop (as nobody wants almost 9 lbs dropped on their laps, and certainly not 9 lbs of HOT laptop while gaming).... I will say this: I love that GSync is being included in laptops now.
Note to Asus, quit trying to 'check boxes' and start offering real value in some other form in your laptops. Does anyone need 24 or 32 GB of ram in a lower mid level desktop equivalent laptop used for gaming? Um... NOPE. 16 GB is overkill, but 8GB is underkill, so stick to 16. But don't cheap out on the SSD. These days, when you can get a 480-512 GB SSD for like $200, just put that in it and be done with it. Don't try to up sell your customers for $500 for something that should already be included for your bloated list price. BTW, stop overcharging for GPUs in laptops. If you take this 980M out of the laptop, what do you have? A laptop spec wise similar to something you charge $799 for? That is CRAZY! Does adding a GPU that is functionally equivalent to a $250-$300 desktop card mean you should charge $1200 (or whatever) more? Sure seems like you are milking your loyal customers instead of trying to expand your user base by offering a better bang for the buck than your competitors. Which sucks, because I personally think you are second only to Apple in design quality. I'm typing on a Zenbook now. Love ya. Try harder. Do better.
While I agree with most of your statements, I fail to see how they are "cheaping out on the SSD". Its an XP941 which is a PCIe SSD - not SATA and is known to hit 1.0Gbyte/sec+... They also cost about 2x the price of a SATA drive too.
My mistake. I missed that the first time I glanced at the article. Came back to read it. I do love the PCIe SSDs. I have a small one in my MSI Ghost Pro and it is actually noticeably faster than the regular SSD in my Zenbook. Hopefully everything will start coming with the twice as fast PCIe version, from the lowest Zenbook to this massive gaming box.
One other thing I'd add to my rant. Asus, you clearly have enough room on the keyboard, so could you PLEASE return the double wide zero key on the keypad? For people who actually use the keypad for number entry, the double wide zero key makes it so much easier. Especially since we are used to it on every desktop keyboard and calculator out there. Why do you insist on gimping your laptops this way?
PS, I looked at the picture of the back of the laptop, read the Pontiac Aztec comment, and laughed. Yup, both look quirky. Some people will love it, some will hate it.
Now I come straight to The Price. You will know that the price of ups and downs in the price keeps. Price fluctuations also matter on offer. The current price of Amazon’s according to ROG G751JY laptop is $1,049.00 and this price can be changed at any time. Do not forget to check on the current price official website or certified partners’ website at the time of purchase of any product. https://technocmd.com/asus-rog-g751jy-gaming-lapto...
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nathanddrews - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Does Intel plan on taking advantage of the Adaptive Sync tech anytime soon? I know they use it for other things for power saving (self-refresh, etc.), but it sure seems like a golden opportunity.In the same vein - given that we know (and have known for some time) that the G-Sync module is not required if you have eDP/DP1.2a, when can we expect a shift to tech-agnostic displays? Do we have to wait for DP1.3?
DanNeely - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I know eDP/DP1.2a provides a similar feature set to G-Sync; but has nVidia actually said anything about adopting it instead of (in addition to?) their current custom hardware implementation?DanNeely - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I suppose I deserve what I get for commenting before reading the 2nd page of the article; but as long as they're requiring additional qualification work to approve a panel for GSync, there's still plenty of potential to cause trouble for cross GPU support if they wanted to.nathanddrews - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
VESA's Adaptive Sync is a part of eDP and DP 1.2a+. It's there, waiting to be used. G-Sync, FreeSync, and whatever Intel does are just the names for how they utilize it.The only reason NVIDIA pursued a custom module was because no desktop monitors - at the time - included A-Sync. Screens connected via eDP can. As we move forward with newer and newer displays, we're likely to see more and more of them be A-Sync-capable, which means being able to support any variable refresh technology, whatever the marketing label is. Whether or not those displays end up as G-Sync, FreeSync, or some sort of hybrid is up to the manufacturers, I suppose. Just like with G-Sync and FreeSync displays, optimizing the display will still be important.
Ideal situation: connect monitor to computer, GPU drivers load a default profile based upon EDID for frequency range and resolution support, advanced users can tweak (under/overclock/etc.), maybe share firmware, etc. to crowd-source calibration settings. Shipping a monitor back to a manufacturer for an update is ridiculous...
lefty2 - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
> The only reason NVIDIA pursued a custom module was because no desktop monitors - at the time - included A-Sync.This is not true. When AMD created FreeSync the DisplayPort 1.2a monitors did not exist either, but instead of creating a propierty solution, they got FreeSync incorperated into the open standard. Nvidia could have done the same thing, but they prefer using propierty standards to lock the customers in.
nathanddrews - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
Interesting version of history you've created.DP1.2a display availability lagged behind G-Sync Module display availability by more than a year. If NVIDIA pursued the VESA solution, G-Sync would have been delayed alongside FreeSync. The G-Sync module was absolutely required to get a jump on the market since DP1.2 did not include the Adaptive Sync option. You may not LIKE it, but that's the how it happened.
lefty2 - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
DP1.2a display availability also lagged behind FreeSync... AMD just waited had to wait for them to come available (in fact they pushed the standard forward) and Nvidia could have done the same.LoganPowell - Friday, November 27, 2015 - link
ASUS does overall make fantastic computers, but I'd recommend going for the Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLK. Highly approved by many gaming enthusiasts. /Logan from http://www.consumerrunner.com/top-10-best-laptops/Creig - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
"additional qualification" = give us money to use the G-sync name.Shadowmaster625 - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I have a great idea. Let's build Optimus notebooks for five years, and then all the sudden build one without it! Isnt that a great frickin idea? I need to be CEO of Asus.meacupla - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't optimus cause a ton of problems that people just wanted to disable it permanently?Dribble - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
You're wrong, never had any problems with it and hardly read any complaints about it.Gigaplex - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I've had plenty of problems with it. Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist.Refuge - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
Never heard about it? Were you hiding under a rock during that fiasco? It was so bad that some review sites would mark a product down just for having Optimus enabled by default in the bios from the factory.nerd1 - Friday, July 31, 2015 - link
Optimus is terrible for everything except AAA gaming (big trouble with most online games, nightmare with linux, and so on), and does not make any sense for large caliber gaming rigs anyway. Basically you have to plug in otherwise battery won't last more than an hour.DanNeely - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
There's a 1-2% framerate hit; and while that's a meaningless real world difference hysteria driven configuration has meant it's often not been installed in top of the line gaming laptops; and caused people to disable it in mid-range ones.Samus - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Optimus crashes pretty much every 3D modeling program I've ever tried on it, especially Solidworks.Jorsher - Friday, July 31, 2015 - link
I've never had a problem with it on my 2012 (perhaps older) Dell XPS with Intel and NVidia graphics. I'm glad to have it.WorldWithoutMadness - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I assume it has something to do with the G-sync.Maybe it is not compatible with optimus, switching intel hd to gtx, vice versa
Brett Howse - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I think it has something to do with G-Sync, which is why I laid that out exactly on page 3 :)"In order to implement G-SYNC, the NVIDIA GPU must be directly connected to the display panel over eDP - since variable refresh doesn't currently translate through iGPUs - which means that it instantly precludes implementation of NVIDIA’s Optimus technology"
Meaker10 - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Indeed, the only way to get around this is to do what MSI have done and have a manual switch and on reboot move the traces over and run in IGP mode (without G-sync of course).Asus also only had the later G750 with optimus, before they actually avoided it generally in their 17 inch models. So really for asus the optimus models were a blip rather than a trend.
nerd1 - Friday, July 31, 2015 - link
Many laptops had hardware mux to switch GPU pre-optimus era (alienware had one) which is a way better solution than optimus.nightbringer57 - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
As a matter of fact, everyone has been building some non optimus notebooks all the time.The Optimus technology requires the screen to be directly driven by the integrated GPU. Some custom technologies made by GPU manufacturers require the screen to be driven by the GPU himself. That's why the 3D laptops never sold, because Nvidia's 3D technology requires the screen to be driven by the nvidia GPU directly, so you can't have an Optimus-enabled 3D screen laptop (well, at least using nvidia 3D).
The same problem is true for G-Sync. So you can't technically have G-sync and optimus on the same laptop.
BMNify - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Exactly, the optimus tech even effects VR and you can't drive VR with igpu, many high end laptops are now coming without optimus due to customer demand.BMNify - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Optimus tech is reviled in the hardcore gaming community and gaming forums who pay $2000 plus for gaming laptops, many top-end gaming laptops have no optimus due to Customer demand !!Notmyusualid - Saturday, August 1, 2015 - link
^ This is true.Many don't buy a machine due to the very fact that Optimus is there.
However, I have a Dell M3800 HD4600/K1100M that has no issue with it.
boeush - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
OK, bit why would anyone buy this now, when Skylake is right around the corner? Wait another couple of months, and an equivalent model with a better CPU and DDR4 is all but guaranteed by the holiday shopping season. Or, at the very least, this particular model will be selling at deep discounts by then...boeush - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Not to mention, a premium laptop this far into 2015, and with not a single USB 3.1 port? Tsk, tsk...meacupla - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
because, you buy it when you need it, not when there is something new 'in a couple of months'.A week, sure, that's not a long wait, but 2 months to launch means you're going to be waiting another 6 months until the replacement for this type of gaming laptop to appear on the market.
boeush - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
According to various leaks, Skylake H is launching in October. Skylake T (low voltage 35W i7 6700) is also launching about then or even sooner.Given that, why would anyone NOT expect all brands to refresh models with Skylake by Black Friday?? Any brand that fails to do that, is going to lose out huge this year.
So sure, retail availability of bixed CPUs is October, but I'll bet all the OEMs have had samples under NDA since spring, and are working to deliver updated models on the same day as the CPU launch.
Notmyusualid - Saturday, August 1, 2015 - link
^ Also this is true.Guys in work bemoanded my M3800 purchase back in December due to only having Haswell, and supposedly Broadwell was due out any day... But a machine was required immediately.
Broadwell shipped 8 months later, and in no numbers too! I'm not ever buying a 'U' Intel cpu, so those don't count.
Turns out my instinct (likely due to places like this), was right.
BMNify - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Around the corner?? Skylake H mobile will take atleast 6 months before launching in a new product like this, people buy when they need and don't wait half a year for updates.shadowjk - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Exactly. I'm still on 4700MQ + 780M.With "Skylake around the corner", nobody seems to want to sell even the few Broadwell-H laptops that allegedly exist, atleast in Europe. I'm guessing we'll be stuck on Haswell another 9-16 months..
boeush - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
My guess is, nobody wanted to invest in Broadwell H inventory, when Skylake is soon to render it obsolete. OEMs are simply waiting for Skylake to refresh their models; they are skipping Broadwell pretty much just as Intel did.Refuge - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
Yes, this. No OEM's are paying Broadwell much mind. It was a flubbed launch when you look at its placement in the timeline. Timing was all wrong.Intel shouldn't have even bothered with it if they weren't going to push back Skylake, but oh well. At least the limited it to a very small launch.
douglord - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Totally pointless system for anyone that's not an engineer or architect that has to be able to take 3D drawings to customers.Why can't we get a 4 Core 45w chip with Iris Pro in a 5lb 15" laptop with all day battery life (10 hours)?
No we have to choose between a pointless 10lb gayming system with 1 hour battery life and 2 core ULP garbage in a 2lb folder.
BMNify - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I doubt you even read the article's first paragraph before commenting here, You are blabering about Engineers and architects and ignoring the name of the product itself: "Republic of Gamers", Hope you got a clue and its gaming not gayming. Hope i didn't hurt your gay feelings, homophobic people generally are just hiding their own insecurities and can be cured with proper help in coming out of the closet.Notmyusualid - Saturday, August 1, 2015 - link
doug sounds clueless to me.benzosaurus - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I believe the low-end Retina Macbook Pro is exactly the machine you're describing.boeush - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
As an engineer (SW) who periodically deals with 3D graphics and modeling, I wouldn't bother with any 16:9 screen no matter the resolution. 16:10 is the minimal aspect ratio that is remotely acceptable for a workstation. 1080p is only suitable for movie watching, and is counter-productive for anything else.boeush - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
(The sad and rarely advertised/appreciated aspect of any kind of engineering or architecting, us that 50% or more of the time is spent on writing or reviewing of documentation.)douglord - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Has anyone seen a windows laptop with a 4 core cpu and Iris Pro with NO igpu?ingwe - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Isn't Iris Pro an iGPU?BMNify - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
pointless question is pointless, Iris Pro IS igpu.Notmyusualid - Saturday, August 1, 2015 - link
+1Meaker10 - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
Yes this model with the 4870HQ, also the GT72/GT80 with the 4950HQ and 5950HQ. However they can manually switch to it too.deeps6x - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
I believe the author must have been referring to the Zenbook 303, as the Zenbook 305 is a cpu crippled piece of dung. But an otherwise nice piece of dung. 1080P (not some unusable in windows 3k or 4k BS), matte screen (which is the only way to go on a non-touch laptop), NON-TOUCH (which is also the only way to go imho), nice keyboard, nice case, nice weight, so-so connectivity. But the 303 doesn't gimp the CPU and that makes it a NICE ZENBOOK.As for this overweight (big steaming pile) mini-desktop (as nobody wants almost 9 lbs dropped on their laps, and certainly not 9 lbs of HOT laptop while gaming).... I will say this: I love that GSync is being included in laptops now.
Note to Asus, quit trying to 'check boxes' and start offering real value in some other form in your laptops. Does anyone need 24 or 32 GB of ram in a lower mid level desktop equivalent laptop used for gaming? Um... NOPE. 16 GB is overkill, but 8GB is underkill, so stick to 16. But don't cheap out on the SSD. These days, when you can get a 480-512 GB SSD for like $200, just put that in it and be done with it. Don't try to up sell your customers for $500 for something that should already be included for your bloated list price. BTW, stop overcharging for GPUs in laptops. If you take this 980M out of the laptop, what do you have? A laptop spec wise similar to something you charge $799 for? That is CRAZY! Does adding a GPU that is functionally equivalent to a $250-$300 desktop card mean you should charge $1200 (or whatever) more? Sure seems like you are milking your loyal customers instead of trying to expand your user base by offering a better bang for the buck than your competitors. Which sucks, because I personally think you are second only to Apple in design quality. I'm typing on a Zenbook now. Love ya. Try harder. Do better.
/end rant
WackyWRZ - Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - link
While I agree with most of your statements, I fail to see how they are "cheaping out on the SSD". Its an XP941 which is a PCIe SSD - not SATA and is known to hit 1.0Gbyte/sec+... They also cost about 2x the price of a SATA drive too.deeps6x - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
My mistake. I missed that the first time I glanced at the article. Came back to read it. I do love the PCIe SSDs. I have a small one in my MSI Ghost Pro and it is actually noticeably faster than the regular SSD in my Zenbook. Hopefully everything will start coming with the twice as fast PCIe version, from the lowest Zenbook to this massive gaming box.One other thing I'd add to my rant. Asus, you clearly have enough room on the keyboard, so could you PLEASE return the double wide zero key on the keypad? For people who actually use the keypad for number entry, the double wide zero key makes it so much easier. Especially since we are used to it on every desktop keyboard and calculator out there. Why do you insist on gimping your laptops this way?
PS, I looked at the picture of the back of the laptop, read the Pontiac Aztec comment, and laughed. Yup, both look quirky. Some people will love it, some will hate it.
boeush - Thursday, July 30, 2015 - link
At least the keyboard spans the width. What really gets my goat, is when laptop vendors stick a 13" keyboard into a 17" form factor...The fact that I feel a need to actually commend Asus on this matter, is a very sorry commentary on the state of the laptop market these days.
phoneopedia - Sunday, August 23, 2015 - link
ASUS annouced new zenfone 2 Delux Speacial edition.so much memory 256Gb, i liked it.
http://phoneopedia.com/zenfone-2-deluxe-special-ed...
technocmd - Monday, June 1, 2020 - link
Now I come straight to The Price. You will know that the price of ups and downs in the price keeps. Price fluctuations also matter on offer. The current price of Amazon’s according to ROG G751JY laptop is $1,049.00 and this price can be changed at any time. Do not forget to check on the current price official website or certified partners’ website at the time of purchase of any product.https://technocmd.com/asus-rog-g751jy-gaming-lapto...