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  • extide - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    So, yeah, I want some of those Valley Vista cards..!
  • extide - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    Now that I think about this .. it makes total sense. On the Z series chipsets, you get overclocking, and since the BCLK is divorced from the other busses now, you can overclock freely ANY/ALL Skylake cpus ... if you are using Z series chipset.

    This is Intel's counter to that ....
  • SoulShadow - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    It's really too bad because the 1230 was always great value, $90 cheaper than the 6700k
  • MrSpadge - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    No, it's not. It could be, hardware wise. But Intel artificially couples the BCLK again to the other busses on non-K models. This is not well known, because almost noone tests the non-K models. Last week I've seen the first review (!) of one, I think at computerbase.de.

    And I claim to know this because I have an i7 6700 since more than a month and can't get the BCLK over 102.7 MHz. Also "Multicore enhancement" doesn't work anymore (i.e. max turbo clock for all cores).
  • extide - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    Really? Damnit, I was really hoping that was not the case!
  • tynopik - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    anyone else have their OCD triggered by the power column for the E3-1245?
  • johnnycanadian - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    Yup. C'mon Ian, justify! :-)
  • Ian Cutress - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    Ha, that's from Intel's document!
  • Etern205 - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    That would send Capt. Slow to the ER. :P
  • bolyki - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    Reckon there will be a mac pro update?
  • DigitalFreak - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    I believe the Mac Pro uses the E5 series. Those won't show up until next year, though Apple could release a Broadwell based Mac Pro (v4).
  • RU482 - Friday, October 23, 2015 - link

    E5 is a server CPU, E3 is a workstation CPU.
  • vFunct - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    Could these work for MacBook Pros?
  • SirKnobsworth - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    Nope, they're desktop chips. Apple is probably waiting for Skylake-H with Iris Pro graphics, which probably isn't going to arrive until at least the end of this year.
  • RU482 - Friday, October 23, 2015 - link

    http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88210/Intel-X...

    Possibly
  • TallestJon96 - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    E3-1230 looking good at $250. 3.4-3.8ghz, 4 cores 8 threads. Isn't this almost identical to the i7-6700 (non k)?
  • SoulShadow - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    That's why they made it only work with the c230 chipsets. It was such a better deal.
  • freeskier93 - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    Yes, it's basically an i7 without integrated graphics and with ECC ram just like the E3-1231 v3. Looks like the only difference is the v5 now requires a server chipset, which will likely not make it viable anymore as a lower cost i7 for gaming/home workstation.
  • MrSpadge - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    i7 6700 runs at 3.7 GHz max all-core turbo and up to 4.0 GHz under single core loads.
  • iwod - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    I still think Xeon-DE is a much better deal. Any specific features in v5 ( Skylake ) that is useful for server but not on v4 ( Broadwell )?
  • icrf - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    Maybe what we get is actual availability and board variety. I've been looking for a non-mITX D-1540 board since launch and have yet to come up with anything, so I'm very interested in the price/performance/power comparison of these chips to those. I'm okay running an 80 W chip instead of a 45 W so long as low-utilization power consumption is comparable. I'm a little worried that even with a 45 W CPU, total platform power might be much higher here, since it's not the dedicated lower power platform that Xeon-D is.

    Comparing the 1270 and 1275, it's $9 and a lack of GPU different, but both are listed with an 80 W TDP. If you have the GPU and aren't using it, does it consume any power? I'm thinking it might be nice for setup or troubleshooting on what would normally be a headless server.
  • twotwotwo - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    ARK doesn't mention AVX-256, which Intel talked about having in some Skylake server chips. (I'm looking at the E3-1280 at http://ark.intel.com/products/88171/Intel-Xeon-Pro... .) Did y'all hear anything different?
  • mczak - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    I guess you meant AVX-512?
    These chips certainly won't have that (as they are just rebranded parts from the ordinary desktop line artificially locked down to not work in motherboards with ordinary desktop chipsets). AVX-512 isn't just a feature which is disabled (like often happens with some other features) in desktop parts, but physically not present (so skylake-e5 cores will be really different physically).
  • twotwotwo - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    Yeah, AVX-512, sorry. And that was roughly what I figured--"real" server chips to come later.
  • MrSpadge - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    Maybe TSX is finally working? I read that there can be problems with it on Broadwell, too.
  • Morawka - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    wish they made a 25w quad core on mobile.. kinda silly they make quadcores with HT 45w parts on mobile, but the servers get a 25w skylake version.
  • Galatian - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    I think the mobile chips always come with an iGPU
  • bhtooefr - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    i7-6822EQ is the mobile 25 watt quad: http://ark.intel.com/m/products/90615/Intel-Core-i...
  • morrisiriga - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    If I can get a motherboard for these in the $80-$120 range, I'll get the E3-1245v5 over the i7 6700.
  • morrisiriga - Tuesday, October 20, 2015 - link

    Meant the E3-1230v5.
  • legolasyiu - Thursday, November 19, 2015 - link

    ASUS sneaked out 2 server motherboard model # P10S-E/4L and P10S-E/4L that uses C236 chipset and supports Intel Xeon E3-12xx V5 Skylake central processors units.

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