AMD has recently expanded its Ryzen 8000 series by introducing the Ryzen 7 8700F and Ryzen 5 8400F processors. Initially launched in China, these chips were added to AMD's global website, signaling they are available worldwide, apparently from April 1st. Built from the recent Zen 4-based Phoenix APUs using the TSMC 4nm node as their Zen 4 mobile chips, these new CPUs lack integrated graphics. However, the Ryzen 7 8700F does include the integrated Ryzen AI NPU for added capabilities in a world currently dominated by AI and moving it directly into the PC.

The company's decision to announce these chips in China aligns with its strategy to offer Ryzen solutions at every price point in the market. Although AMD didn't initially disclose the full specifications of these F-series models, and we did reach out to the company to ask about them, they refused to discuss them with us. Their listing on the website has now been updated with a complete list of specifications and features, with everything but the price mentioned.

AMD Ryzen 8000G vs. Ryzen 8000F Series (Desktop)
Zen 4 (Phoenix)
AnandTech Cores/Threads Base
Ryzen AI
L3 Cache
Ryzen 7
Ryzen 7 8700G 8/16 4200 5100 R780M
12 CUs
2900 Y 16 65W $329
Ryzen 7 8700F 8/16 4100 5000 - - Y 16 65W ?
Ryzen 5
Ryzen 5 8600G 6/12 4300 5000 R760M
8 CUs
2800 Y 16 65W $229
Ryzen 5 8400F 6/12 4200 4700 - - N 16 65W ?

The Ryzen 7 8700F features an 8C/16T design, with 16MB of L3 cache and the same 65W TDP as the Ryzen 7 8700G. Although the base clock speed is 4.1 GHz, it boosts to 5.0 GHz; this is 100 MHz less on both base/boost clocks than the 8700G. Meanwhile, the Ryzen 5 8400F is a slightly scaled-down version of the Ryzen 8600G APU, with 6C/12, 16MB of L3 cache, and again has a 100 MHz reduction to base clocks compared to the 8600G. Unlike the Ryzen 5 8400F, the Ryzen 7 8700F keeps AMD's Ryzen AI NPU, adding additional capability for generative AI. 

The Ryzen 5 8400F can boost up to 4.7 GHz, 300 MHz slower than the Ryzen 5 8600G. AMD also allows overclocking for these new F-series chips, which means users could potentially boost the performance of these processors to match their G-series equivalents.

Pricing details are still pending, but to remain competitive, AMD will likely need to price these CPUs below the 8700G and 8600G, as well as the Ryzen 7 7700 and Ryzen 5 7600. These CPUs offer, albeit very limited, integrated graphics and have double the L3 cache capacity, along with higher boost clocks than the 8000F series chips, so pricing is something to consider whenever pricing becomes available.

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  • The_Assimilator - Thursday, April 11, 2024 - link

    Do you guys get a bonus every time you mention "AI" in an article?
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, April 11, 2024 - link

    If only. Unfortunately, that isn't how Microsoft is opting to spend their marketing dollars.
  • GeoffreyA - Friday, April 12, 2024 - link

    It's a reflections of the facts, AI being all the rage at the moment.
  • NextGen_Gamer - Thursday, April 11, 2024 - link

    I am thinking that in the chart above, the more appropriate comparison for the Ryzen 5 8400F would be the Ryzen 5 8500G. The Ryzen 7 8700G and 8600G are based on the "Phoenix (1)" silicon, with all 8 cores being Zen 4, 12 CU RDNA-3 GPU and NPU.

    The Ryzen 5 8500G and 8300G are based on the "Phoenix (2)" silicon, that has a mixture of Zen 4 + Zen 4c cores, only a 4 CU RDNA-3 GPU, and no NPU present at all.

    If "Phoenix (1)" has a defective iGPU, that it can be used for the 8700F. Then if "Phoenix (2)" has a defective iGPU, it could be used for the 8400F. That would make the most sense, for making the most of AMD's chip production.
  • kpb321 - Thursday, April 11, 2024 - link

    The 8400f could also be a outlet for Phoenix (1) with a defective NPU. I don't think there is any other chip for that currently. Hopefully AMD didn't mix both into the 8400F.
  • NextGen_Gamer - Thursday, April 11, 2024 - link

    @ kpb321 - That is true, and yeah I think you're right. Man that would be BIG piece of GPU silicon to throw away though! AMD already has the 8600G with its cut-down 8 CU configuration. Having all 12 CUs disabled because of a defective NPU seems harsh, but you could definitely be right.
  • Poui - Friday, April 12, 2024 - link

    It would still be better than throwing off that chip in the trashcan because of a defective NPU

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