In what appears to be a mistake or a jump of the gun by ASUS, they have seemingly published a list of specifications for one of its key notebooks that all but allude to the next generation of AMD's mobile processors. While we saw AMD toy with a new nomenclature for their Phoenix silicon (Ryzen 7040 series), it seems as though AMD is once again changing things around where their naming scheme for processors is concerned.

The ASUS listing, which has now since been deleted, but as of writing is still available through Google's cache, highlights a model that is already in existence, the VivoBook S 16 OLED (M5606), but is listed with an unknown AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 170 processor. Which, based on its specificiations, is certainly not part of the current Hawk Point (Phoenix/Phoenix 2) platform.

The cache on Google shows the ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED with a Ryzen AI 9 HX 170 Processor

While it does happen in this industry occasionally, what looks like an accidental leak by ASUS on one of their product pages has unearthed an unknown processor from AMD. This first came to our attention via a post on Twitter by user @harukaze5719. While we don't speculate on rumors, we confirmed this ourselves by digging through Google's cache. Sure enough, as the image above from Google highlights, it lists a newly unannounced model of Ryzen mobile processor. Under the listing via the product compare section for the ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED (M5606) notebook, it is listed with the AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 170, which appears to be one of AMD's upcoming Zen 5-based mobile chips codenamed Strix Point.

So with the seemingly new nomenclature that AMD has gone with, it has a clear focus on AI, or rather Ryzen AI, by including it in the name. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 170 looks set to be a 12C/24T Zen 5 mobile variant, with their Ryzen AI NPU or similar integrated within the chip. Given that Microsoft has defined that only processors with an NPU with 45 TOPS of performance or over constitute being considered an 'AI PC', it's likely the Xilinx (now AMD Xilinx) based NPU will meet these requirements as the listing states the chip has up to 77 TOPS of AI performance available. The HX series is strikingly similar to AMD's (and Intel's) previous HX naming series for their desktop replacement SKUs for laptops, so assuming any of the details of ASUS's error are correct, then this is presumably a very high-end, high-TDP part.

AMD Laptop Roadmap from Zen 2 in 2019 to Zen 5 on track for release in 2024

We've known for some time that AMD plans to release AMD's Zen 5-based Strix Point line-up sometime in 2024. Given the timing of Computex 2024, which is just over four weeks away, we still don't quite have the full picture of Zen 5's performance and its architectural shift over Zen 4. AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su also confirmed that Zen 5 will come with enhanced RDNA graphics within the Strix Point SoC by stating "Strix combines our next-gen Zen 5 core with enhanced RDNA graphics and an updated Ryzen AI engine to significantly increase the performance, energy efficiency, and AI capabilities of PCs,"

While it's entirely possible as we lead up to Computex 2024 that AMD is prepared to announce more details about Zen 5, nothing is confirmed. We do know that the CEO of AMD, Dr. Lisa Su is scheduled to deliver the opening keynote of the show, Dr. Lisa Su unveiled their Zen 4 microarchitecture at Computex 2022 during AMD's keynote and even unveiled their 3D V-Cache stacking, which we know today as the Ryzen X3D CPUs back at Computex 2021.

With that in mind, AMD and Dr. Lisa Su love to announce new products and architectures at Computex, so we just have to wait until the beginning of next month. How AMD denotes the nomenclature for the upcoming Zen 5 mobile and desktop processors remains to be seen, but hopefully, all will be revealed soon. Regarding the ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED (M5606), we currently don't know any of the other specifications at this time. Still, we expect them to be available once AMD has updated us with information on Zen 5 and Strix Point.



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  • nandnandnand - Tuesday, May 7, 2024 - link

    The focus is on making the naming scheme similar to Intel Core Ultra with three digits at the end, but also shoving AI in there for good measure. Reply
  • meacupla - Tuesday, May 7, 2024 - link

    The sad part is, this is an improvement to what they were using before. Reply
  • kn00tcn - Tuesday, May 7, 2024 - link

    no it isnt, the zen arch generation is now missing, it's back to arbitrary numbers unless they make sure to never mix gens or rebrands

    why do people keep claiming the old name is hard just because a couple numbers swap position and youtubers over explained with the wheel
  • nandnandnand - Wednesday, May 8, 2024 - link

    Another bad thing here is the "HX" being used for the mainstream mobile die again. They did it with Rembrandt, switched it to Dragon Range (desktop silicon) instead of Phoenix, matching Intel's HX desktop silicon convention, and now it's on Strix Point. I wonder what Fire Range or Strix Halo will be called.

    Ryzen 9 170... will there be a 180 or 190? 5.1 GHz turbo is a slight regression from 7940/8945HS, and 170 seems like it should be w/ Ryzen 7. Not a big deal but interesting. These could be on the same or a slightly better TSMC 4nm node.

    Cache is confirmed 24 MB L3 (+1 MB L2 per core for 36 MB marketing total). Unfortunately L3 will likely be split by CCX into 16+8 so no actual gain for the fast cores.
  • meacupla - Wednesday, May 8, 2024 - link

    I somehow doubt we'll get to see a Zen2/3/4 chip using Ryzen AI branding.
    It wouldn't make sense to redesign all the older silicon when you can create a new, more premium, brand with a clean slate.
  • GeoffreyA - Wednesday, May 8, 2024 - link

    One can only sigh and shake the head. Reply
  • boozed - Wednesday, May 8, 2024 - link

    Are they really putting "AI" in the branding?

  • Iketh - Thursday, May 9, 2024 - link

    So, it appears we can derive 12 cores per CCX, which means a high-end desktop part of 24 cores. It's safe to assume high-end laptop will also get the 24-core part, since this 12-core is offered in a vivobook and replaces the 7940HS, which is 8 cores, but we have 16-cores available in high-end laptop.

    As for the speed, 5.1ghz is slightly lower than zen 4 mobile parts. But since this is a vivobook, it's probably not the "highest budget" part. I think this increases the likelihood of 6ghz single-core desktop skus.

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